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Corbin Fisher Sues Illegal Porn Downloaders; Outs Gay Teens To Their Parents

corbin fisher, lawsuitIs Corbin Fisher the one where the guys sit on the couch before moving to the bed? That’s every single porn gay porn studio’s sequence of events these days, you say? I see…

Corbin Fisher is taking flack for their refusal to understand how the internet has evolved into a file-sharing platform. The gay porn studio is suing illegal downloaders of its videos via torrent sites. Does the company have a right to its own intellectual property? Certainly. Are they thinking this one through? Not at all.

XBiz reports:

Liberty Media Holdings, parent company of Corbin Fisher, said that its strong anti-piracy stance was noteworthy in 2010.

“The company won millions of dollars in court judgments in the past year, including a recent $250,000 judgment against a single torrent user,” the company said in a statement.

Corbin Fisher warned that BitTorrent users not taking advantage of the amnesty period will be liable for up to $150,000 in damages for each infringement.

“A list of thousands of torrent users has already been provided to Corbin Fisher by an independent research group, and all of these users will be targeted in the first wave of lawsuits to be filed in February,” the company said. “Anyone who has shared Corbin Fisher content via a torrent site is encouraged to contact the company immediately.”

You know who steals downloads porn off the internet for free? Teenagers. People without credit cards. Kids under 18 who are unintimidated by those silly “Must be 18 to enter” disclaimers on sites selling sex. Teenagers who are watching porn on the sly on family computers, and aren’t sophisticated enough to know where to find free and legal clips.

In other words, closeted gay kids. And Corbin Fisher’s legal action to ferret out these illegal downloaders is a hunt via IP Address. Family computers, no matter the user, share the same IP address. So when the subpoena shows up, it will be addressed to Mom or Dad – but it will include a whole rundown of little Jimmy’s internet history. This is obviously problematic. Kids shouldn’t be stealing off the internet, but truth be told, the majority probably don’t realize what they are doing is stealing. And you know what’s worse than a company which just received a $250,000 settlement against a single downloader getting ripped off by fans and followers of their work? A company that profits off of gay dollars outing gay kids to their unsupportive parents.

Displaying just how much they don’t get it, Corbin Fisher recently offered file-sharers a 14 day amnesty period to fess up to their digital crimes (of solo passion) and pay the company a whopping $1,000 to not be prosecuted. You can imagine how many gay teens were able to pony up a thousand bucks of piggy bank savings to clear them in the lawsuit.

What do you think of the porn empire potentially outing gay teens?

  • pezalinski

    Sounds like the typical witch hunt… if they changed their pricing and delivery models to something matching iTunes (as the #1 successful model of how to file share), then they might be making more profits with less work, and not have to shell out cash for lawyers and snipe hunters.

  • pezalinski

    Sounds like the typical witch hunt… if they changed their pricing and delivery models to something matching iTunes (as the #1 successful model of how to file share), then they might be making more profits with less work, and not have to shell out cash for lawyers and snipe hunters.

  • Can’t wait to see the spike in gay teen suicides and poorly investigated child abuse cases that result from this mass lawsuit/outing. Way to go Corbin this is going to be AMAZING

  • Can’t wait to see the spike in gay teen suicides and poorly investigated child abuse cases that result from this mass lawsuit/outing. Way to go Corbin this is going to be AMAZING

  • With the recent gay teen suicides, you would think gay companies like CF wouldn’t be doing this. Sadly it seems they only care about the huge amount of dough they’ll receive from each torrent user.

  • With the recent gay teen suicides, you would think gay companies like CF wouldn’t be doing this. Sadly it seems they only care about the huge amount of dough they’ll receive from each torrent user.

  • The truth of the matter is that it IS illegal. Any kid sophisticated enough to find and download torrent files without getting caught by their parents will most likely be aware that what they are doing is illegal. It sucks but I totally think it is within their right to sue. You say they should consider the kids who are downloading this stuff but I think the theft is a greater crime. To say that these kids could find, download and hide torrents on a public computer but can’t find free porn sites is ludicrous. It’s just my opinion and I know people aren’t going to like it.

  • Intellectual Property is a statist doctrine. While it may be morally wrong it would be a nightmare to try and enforce it. It’s not worth sacrificing our right to privacy over.

  • Matthew

    The truth of the matter is that it IS illegal. Any kid sophisticated enough to find and download torrent files without getting caught by their parents will most likely be aware that what they are doing is illegal. It sucks but I totally think it is within their right to sue. You say they should consider the kids who are downloading this stuff but I think the theft is a greater crime. To say that these kids could find, download and hide torrents on a public computer but can’t find free porn sites is ludicrous. It’s just my opinion and I know people aren’t going to like it.

  • Sleepy

    Intellectual Property is a statist doctrine. While it may be morally wrong it would be a nightmare to try and enforce it. It’s not worth sacrificing our right to privacy over.

  • If it is so easy to find out who is downloading intellectual property (an oxymoron when it comes to porn) from BitTorrent, how come every company on earth isn’t doing this? Something doesn’t sound kosher.

  • stevelittle

    If it is so easy to find out who is downloading intellectual property (an oxymoron when it comes to porn) from BitTorrent, how come every company on earth isn’t doing this? Something doesn’t sound kosher.

  • Their Porn Sucks anyway, Why even risk it….

  • Their Porn Sucks anyway, Why even risk it….

  • First off … a crime is a crime.
    If a company wished to persue this, it is their legal right. They are not doing it to directly attack or out a teen. IF you want to get sticky … these torrents sites are providing pronographic material to minors, last time I checked that’s a fedral crime.
    My brother got in the worst trouble when our phone bill came in and he had made over $500 dollars in calls to a porn site. My brother wasn’t too bright.
    If a teen is that at risk of being beaten, abused, or kicked out of his house watching GAY porn … I doubt he is going to risk it on the family computer.
    This aritcle is making a big deal by pandering to the lowest possable “what if” senerio.

  • Ray-ray

    First off … a crime is a crime.
    If a company wished to persue this, it is their legal right. They are not doing it to directly attack or out a teen. IF you want to get sticky … these torrents sites are providing pronographic material to minors, last time I checked that’s a fedral crime.
    My brother got in the worst trouble when our phone bill came in and he had made over $500 dollars in calls to a porn site. My brother wasn’t too bright.
    If a teen is that at risk of being beaten, abused, or kicked out of his house watching GAY porn … I doubt he is going to risk it on the family computer.
    This aritcle is making a big deal by pandering to the lowest possable “what if” senerio.

  • Anonymous

    Has Corbin Fisher commented on these accusations regarding gay teens?

  • edinbk

    Has Corbin Fisher commented on these accusations regarding gay teens?

  • Completely agreed. To say being a closeted gay teen is an excuse to break the law is completely ludicrous. Equal means EQUAL – no special treatment.
    http://totallyhuman.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/no-special-treatment/

  • you know he was referring to gay people who were stealing from him not all gays right? just because we all do it doesn’t mean illegally downloading stuff isnt a crime. how about we ban all violnce because there a chance some kid might be inspired by it, “any chance is too high” right? in stead of suing, they should be investing in education so kids wont be scared to come out and be accepted for who they are

  • Brian

    This is false. People that STEAL should pay up. I am a PORN STAR and I work hard (non-pun) for a living, yet why should my work be available for free to anyone? If you steal porn, you should expect the porn companies will be knocking on your door to collect. So Stop Piracy!

  • Gregory Daley

    it’s simple, these people are in the business to make money. they’re not doctors saving lives or public defenders trying to make a difference in the world. They do porn. It is understandable why they would want to sue these people who download their videos illegally (even though the majority are high school and college students). What these kids are doing is wrong (closeted or not). However, Corbin Fisher, will have the blood of every kid who takes his own life as a result of these lawsuits, on their hands.

    Its a question of business and humanity.

  • Anonymous

    Torrent makers should be sued. If they are facilitating the ability of the content with no warnings. It is wrong to sue the user and not the enabeler. No bit torrent no illegal downloading. Simple

  •  Way to blackmail the gay teen community

  •  Way to blackmail the gay teen community

  • Unless you’re also the producer, or have an amazingly good contract (instead of the usual “pay for play” arrangement), or are somehow sharing royalties from the porn, there’s no “theft” involved.  Welcome to art, dude.  m

  • Tastentier

    I’m amazed that the concern here is not the criminal activity, but the potential outing of the criminals. If a teenager gets caught trying to steal a gay porn magazine, the parents will also be informed. Theft is theft, and Corbin Fisher are within their legal rights. The lesson to take away from this is: Don’t steal any porn if you don’t want your parents to know about your sexual fantasies.

  • The internets is serious business.

  • Just because you’re in porn doesn’t mean you’re a star.

  • The punishment needs to fit the crime and take into consideration the offender.  The law rarely treats minors the same as adults.  The fourteen day amnesty with the proviso that $1,000 be paid or the suit is filed sounds a bit like extortion.  While I am not sympathetic to adults who do this, let’s consider the lack of judgment of the minor.  The first time, slap the wrist.  The second, throw the book at them.  Consider as well if these things are prosecuted successfully and criminally against a minor and the charge is a felony, this could ruin a young person’s life.  The scales of lady justice here, for minors, do not seem to be level.  I do appreciate that people want their due for the work they have done.  I would be more inclined to suggest that the Bit Torrent operators and providers be sued.  As they stand in the “chain of commerce” a lot of this could be resolved simply by them making sure they do not have protected material on their sites.  Why aren’t they being prosecuted?

  • Cleveland

    It sounds like they need to spend more time and money making their vids less available and less on suing people i’ve been on sites where i couldn’t use the downloaded video any longer after my subcription ended (why can’t they do that)

  • liquid

    bit torrent isn’t illegal, it is just a format, with hundreds of millions of legitimate users-even cnet flirted with having downloads available via torrent. bit torrent democratizes file distribution; an indie studio or software company can get their stuff out there to their market without the resources of a major player. To demonize the format is misguided, silly, and useless.

  • im a file sharer and i do find this claim of copyright infringement to be complete BS. if i paid for a copy i then own rights to that copy including the sharing of it,not to mention that im not selling it they dont lose money and downloaders are happy its a win win scenario. they are just mad that people without credit cards found a way to get a copy!

    YOU MAD BRO?

    seriously not everyone has paypal or the likes of online payment sources, even i dont when i want to pay for something online i either use a cellphone with the money set aside and have it billed to my phone bill or i go to a store and buy cards which allow me to pay for content via those sites, yet i find corbin to be a retard with a self superiority complex.

  • because sharing paid for content isnt illegal the copys downloaded are ripped from someone elses dvd copy so in reality you cannot sue someone for possesion of a ripped copy but infact for trying to sell said ripped copy and by proving that its a ripped one they can be sued. al this is is a fear monger tactic, if i downloaded anything id gladly sit back and await the claims from my doorstep just to prove how all they want is more money.

  • your in porn? lol i somehow doubt it, i bet i have a bigger dick than you. so grow a pair and stop claiming every vid your in is your property. unless you made, produced or distributed under your name i suggest you learn what reality is before you make any claims cause i think unlawful claims is a crime!

    seriously with what i have and my intelect you would be screaming bloody murder by the end of the trial just to get your way. so grow some balls learn whats realy true and stop makin NO SENSE!

  • how bout this i pay for a copy on DVD rip it go back return it for an exchange and over only spend about half the price in dvds having those people lose money only cause im smart enough to gain from spending very little! its either this where they still lose money or the reality those who use torrents get what they cannot afford normally because these idiots act like everyone has money so were free to sue LOL!

  • you do know that’s considered conspiracy to cause large scale deaths right?

  • If your not going to give gays equal rights anyways, then why charge them equally? Especially teens?

  • Ok, Id like to know where you shop…  It is known as the Copy Right Law that keeps you from returning one open dvd for anther…  You can only exchange it for the same dvd…  DUM ASS!

  • but with that stated…  I like your point…:)

  • Here’s the deal:  you make it, some are going to buy it, some are going to copy it.  That’s the way it is.  Deal with it.

  • Elena TranquiliTea Williams

    While the article in question makes good points and bad ones, I feel the commenters on this article fail to realize what is actually happening: 

    If the actors in these videos were paid on a PER PURCHASE basis- there would probably not be a company named “Corbin Fisher”.
    The company is worth over $1million in assets- Please, save me the starving artist argument. Their not doing this for their actors, their doing it for themselves. Even if the company didn’t take this to court they’d continue producing movies. The Wikipedia page outlines the companies history- Read it for yourself. 
     
    What bothers me most, however, is that this article does not cover one stipulation of the suit- “The suit also claims that any reasonable internet user would secure their router and those who did not and allowed content to be downloaded through their IP address were also guilty of copyright infringement.” – From WikipediaThis is where CF is wrong & what should have been mentioned here. Prosecuting people who have stolen is within the grounds of the law, even if its BS its how things are currently working. However, prosecuting people who simply had an unsecured wireless connection is asinine. Its a persons legal right to own their Wireless Router, and if they want to leave it unsecured, they have every right to do so- They can’t be held accountable for another persons actions if the actions are not happening in that household.Corbin Fisher- the namesake of the company, was an HR rep for crying out loud. No wonder this is such a ruthless lawsuit, 

  • So it’s not enough that this article invents facts by claiming it’s closeted teenagers who are stealing Corbin’s property, but they also don’t have a grammar check or spell check on their own computers?  Ugh.

  • Actually, copyright law specifically states that you do NOT own rights to share, copy, or redistribute the copy you purchased.  You only have the right to personal viewing.  And “they don’t lose money and downloaders are happy its a win win scenario”?  You must not be familiar with business, Cobalt Blaze.  If you buy a copy, and then 10 people download it from you, they made one sale, and lost ten.  That’s means they LOST TEN SALES because you are giving their product away for free, illegally.

  • Joe Heisenberg

    I LOVE how you spelt intellect wrong, haha

  • You also assume that those 10 people WOULD have been customers.

  • ThatDCGuy

    Sorry, Cobalt, that’s wrong.  You can get in trouble for distributing OR Possessing the copyrighted material.  You are wrong in your assertions.  The reason Bit Torrent is so difficult to prosecute is the way file dissemination works.  The File never exists on the distributing server.  instead you have a .torrent file which contains no copyrighted information.  The file allows people to gather on a network and share bits of the file with each other, circumventing the host server entirely.  This isn’t like a drug dealer and a drug user, this is like a guy who tells you were to find the drug dealer for free but makes you sign a waiver saying you only will buy legal drugs.  Much harder to prosecute that guy.

  • Ricky Ricky

    This is why I personally think this country is going to the friggin’ dogs!
    Anytime a new law, electronic device, website, whatever, comes along;
    SOMEONE finds a loophole in it somewhere to rip it off, get it free,
    download it, reprogram it, resell it, redistribute it, etc., etc.,
    simply because there are so many leeches out there who don’t seem to have real lives or jobs. As for the kids
    doing this, hell, most kids are 50 times smarter about computers than
    *I* am (maybe too many other adults as well). So this makes me feel sort
    of in-between about the suit thing. But I guess you can’t file a blanket lawsuit “depending on the conditions”. (?) It’s like doing the right thing, that could cause some very wrong results.